Chrome – test Drive…

Google chrome released long time back, I never tried it, but after using some mobile services and read about N900 + Chrome, I thought to test run. Finally start with Mac OS version, then tried on Linux (Fedora x86_64 RPM build by google), and Finally on Windows. It imported all data from Firefox on All platforms very easily , no error, and look was same on all OS, Same feel.

Book Mark Sync was quick feature, which I liked most as Firefox, need to install Weave and then it ask Few more username and password and PIN, then start sync, but for Chrome, someone need only Google a/c and it is done. But what I missed is Merge feature, which works better on Firefox (it ask what to merge), but chrome don’t. You have to merge or not sync at all. Secondly not sure, but I found it is not syncing Password and Browser history like Mozilla Weave

Overall smooth ride, cool look, faster loading, interface than Firefox.

for i18n/l10n point, it is not available in my language (Punjabi), for which I pushed Issue. For Indic, it is available in Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Marathi, Oriya, Tamil, Telugu.

it is Open Source, so got en-GB file to translate, start work if I can push to Google, where I am not sure whether they accept code or not.

N900 Will be Soon Av ailable...

"N900 from Nokia available" News is everywhere.
it is following Hardware Configration:
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Display:

• 3.5 inch touch-sensitive widescreen display
• 800 × 480 pixel resolution

• Micro-USB connector, High-Speed USB 2.0

Battery

• BL-5J 1320mAh

Processor:

• TI OMAP 3430: ARM Cortex-A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX with OpenGL ES 2.0 support

Memory:

• Up to 1GB of application memory (256 MB RAM, 768 MB virtual memory)
• 32 GB internal storage

Keyboard:

• Full QWERTY tactile keyboard
• Full QWERTY onscreen keyboard

GSM (Phone):

• Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
• WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz

Web:

• Maemo browser powered by Mozilla
• Adobe Flash Supported

Camera:

• 5 megapixel camera (2584 × 1938 pixels)

----

Complete Detail about Specification here

I was searching for processor, which is available here.
Speed is still not clear whether 600Mhz-1Ghz or not? as Nokia
only mention ~600Mhz, but Site showing upto 1Ghz.

Anyway Linux based Phone, hope to get Unicode based Indian
Language working, which is yet supported by iPhone (partly).

Fedora 10 and Indic...

Finally Fedora 10!

http://fedoraproject.org/en/

You can see various other Indic languages in list on main page.

Main Look is, Punjabi Web Interface back again after a long time.
Link for Punjabi Interface is here
http://fedoraproject.org/pa/

according to Release notes, Major Update (not all)
KDE 4.1 (KDE4 's first Stable release)
Gnome 2.24
Special for Indic Language
On Screen Keyboard for Indic Language


iBus - New Alternative for SCIM

Help for Other Multimedia Help

If you want to listen WMA or other patented formats, use WIFI or other package, which is not part of
Fedora, please don't forget to use RPM Fusion!


USB Boot information and other support,
USB Boot...

If you are an Indic user of Fedora, then surely you will find a bug in Firefox, which is
not yet fixed and Avaiable to track:
Fedora Bug:
Mozilla

Mozilla upstream is going to fix after 3.0.0.5 (in 3.0.0.6), yet is far away from release.
Still only one workaround provided by Fedora Engineer
Download here and Install (only xulrunner package is enough)

Will update more for Indic languages in Fedora 10 later...

till then Enjoy for Indic in Fedora 10!

Firefox Rendering for Indic Language

Firefox 3.0.x's rendering is very bad and it is
almost impossible to work in localize environment with
firefox.

When Firefox downloaded and used in Punjabi language (pa_IN)
locale (environment), English web pages are showing characters
in Punjabi (Non-English) font. (Juck characters as in screenshot)

Blog Screenshot

And yes, it is problem on Linux, but not confirmed on Windows.

it is almost impossible to read the Text on most website. Wonder
is that Punjabi Websites works fine.

Firefox Rendering Problem

First bug was filed for Fedora Bugz #460865, which is later
upstreamed to Mozilla

Mozilla Bz #455647 is handle very quickly and fixed
bug for trunk (firefox 3.1/1.9.1), but Firefox 3.0.3/4/5/6/x
is still without patch. If patch is not
available, then Fedora 10, Opensuse 11.0/11.1 will suffer
and native user will actually suffer from it.

Can someone from Mozilla or Indic community will ask
Mozilla l10n to make commet in Bug (or make blocker
for 1.9.0.5/6)?
It is really difficult for regular Indic user to work
with firefox (3.0.x) without patch?

a Project Change from pa-IN to pa - Mission, not only word

Unicode make it clear that 'pa-gur-IN' is basic part of 'pa' locale

where pa-gur-IN Represent as < LANG >-< SCRIPT >-< REGION >
so Punjabi-Gurmukhi-India Script is actually making 'pa' locale.

So Most Project already using 'pa' is for Punjabi, quite few project
like mozilla is using pa-IN, which need to update.

A bug 380287 filed for Firefox/Thunderbird
updates.

I tried to file before Firefox 3 Release and asked to fix it, but
Mozilla Team was busy with other important task, so it was skipped.
Finally Team have a time and get back to it.

Unicode: http://www.unicode.org/cldr/bugs/locale-bugs?findid=1300
---------------------------------------------------------------------
pa (Stage 1) //Punjabi =
pa-IN (default)(unicode bug _above)
/ \
/ \
pa-arb pa-gur (Stage 2) //2 different Script
(Shahmukhi / Gurmukhi)
| |
pa-PK pa-IN (Stage 3)//Region based,
Pakistan India
---------------------------------------------------------------------

So, Now First we need to skip region based choice and to
original locale choice (that is 'pa'), which is important
as if you run a application, by giving pa-IN or pa-PK, and
no translation available for that, then application will check
for 'pa' translation. As 'pa' is default, so we need to use it
(as Unicode confirmed this).

What happened if Shahmukhi Script people want to start project
for Punjabi?
Surely they have to use script encoding with language like pa-arb
or pa@arb as there is script difference and only solution is to use
arb with pa and it is true for all projects. After all script is basic
difference, not region as any Shahmukhi Punjabi User can be
anywhere is world as Gurmukh Punjabi Script User are.

I got most response from NRI Punjabi people instead of India based.
so it is not good to attach a specific region with locale due to
population (census). I was never happy to divide a language
on basis of region, as Language has no boundary itself, but it
flow of ideas, freedom to express those, So we should make it
open and out of boundary. If I have operating system, then sometimes
it can be used to select timezone for locale automatic, but should
not be forced to use only that timezone. My Mac is showing
same issue as I selected Punjabi, then only Showing region as
India. Surely more Punjabi Mac users are outside India and
Apple is still confuse with "non-census" data. So
making my (our) locale region-free is important mission for me.

During working on bug, something interesting is pointed out that
mozilla got around 100 hits daily for Punjabi locale. It was
quite good figure, if I cared to my guess.

Hope to fix this issue soon as 'Seth' is working quite hard, but
I was worrying about his late comment in bug "will ask our Indic localizers
who write blogs to make the announcement."

let us see what is output of that...

Firefox 3.1 Beta 1 - for Punjabi

Again Firefox available for Testing beta version. It is available
for Punjabi Version 3.1Beta1

Windows Download:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.1b1&os=win&lang=pa-IN

Mac Download:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.1b1&os=osx&lang=pa-IN

Linux Download:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.1b1&os=linux&lang=pa-IN

If you have resource please download and Test once (for Punjabi), so
that we can make impact for locale [1]

More This Beta release Information:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

After Test, please send us your review, comment about
Translation to our mailing list Punjab-users so that
we can work to update as we have two week to finish before
Beta 2 release. I have one issue with me (which is sent by
Mr. A S Kang for copy/link issue)

[1] Mozilla Bug
ਬੱਗ ਮੁਤਾਬਕ ਔਸਤ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਲਈ ਹਿੱਟ 100 ਰੋਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਹੈ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਥੋੜ੍ਹੀ ਹੈਰਾਨੀ ਹੋਈ ਕਿ 100 ਕਿੱਥੋ ਹੋ ਗਏ, ਸੱਚੀ
ਐਨੀ ਉਮੀਦ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ। ਬਾਕੀ ਮੋਜ਼ੀਲਾ ਸਿਸਟਮ ਐਡਮਿਨ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਖੁਦ ਪੜ੍ਹ ਲਵੋ ਜੀ! Check
Admin comment below about Punjabi

"For the most part it looks like we have about 100 Active Daily users for pa-IN.
There is a strange couple of days just recently where we had a huge spike.
aug 21,22... Can anyone think of what might have caused this? Holiday or any
other event? I could have just been an error in our reporting system...

Here is the data for those two days and the last 15.

2008-08-21 7,004
2008-08-22 533
...
2008-10-01 110
2008-10-02 94
2008-10-03 115
2008-10-04 99
2008-10-05 93
2008-10-06 107
2008-10-07 106
2008-10-08 114
2008-10-09 96
2008-10-10 119
2008-10-11 99
2008-10-12 102
2008-10-13 117
2008-10-14 113
2008-10-15 119"

how to check changset with HG (mozilla)

I was working to fix translation status for mozilla firefox release.
After commit some files, I need to find what is changeset, which
I forgot to get with following command before 'hg push':

$ hg outgoing

this command give you output as changeset.

After small search I found new command as below:

$ hg log

This command give you complete log, from start date and first
few line will be latest log as below:
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singh-brars-macbook:pa-IN Preet$ hg log
changeset: 9:c712d30e06bb
tag: tip
user: A S Alam
date: Tue Sep 30 20:20:34 2008 +0530
summary: Update for Beta Release with add/remove lines, files for Punjabi (pa): A S Alam

changeset: 8:ad8705b0d648
user: A S Alam
date: Tue Sep 30 20:18:16 2008 +0530
summary: Update for Beta Release with add/remove lines, files for Punjabi (pa): A S Alam
------

this was useful to get latest changes commit to directory

Firefox 3 - The Download Day!

it was 18 June in India, and I opened site for firefox, but it was not!
I tried many times, but web-site was down. I thought It was due to
heavy download. within 2 hours, I failed to open a single time:-(

my friend told me that BSNL blocked the site due to heavy traffic.
oh shit, it was too bad. only after lunch time I was able to download it.
till that time I was watching graph from Firefox download world-wide.

It was wonderful to see graph, but India is far behind than even
smaller countries like France, Germany. With passing day, it was
near to 0.1 million, but where China is over it, but Australia, Russia
is over if you compare population with India. Even Brazil has
statics comparable with US/Canada.

Top 10 downloader are:US, Germany, Japan, Spain, UK, France, Iran, Italy, Canada, Poland

Overall, it shows awareness about Open Source and even about uses of
Software (computer) in Region, India, China, has half the world population,
has Low IT density as compared to rest of world. Same with Africa. So
when those region increases Open Source/Free Software uses (like Brazil has),
then it will be different picture on map while we download next Firefox:-)

Mozilla Blog: Closed for Comments also??

I found Mozilla L10N blog from Pike (Axel), he posed about
Various Tools and Testing related stuff.
(you can found it Here).

I had question "How are you going to test Mozilla l10n Package" by litmus or otherway?
but there was no way to make comment or I failed to found!
when I tried to login, it was showing word press, but not to register.

It was understandable the Post only from Mozilla Staff, but why
Comments are blocked?

Still searching, if you know, please help me about this!
still that "Mozilla tried to Closed Comment with opensource Project":-)

Mozilla Summit 2008 - Honor for Punjabi Team

Mozilla is going organize Mozilla Summit
from 28July 2008 to 1 Aug 2008 (1 Week Event) in Canada, Whistler, British Columbia.

This is first event of its type by Mozilla
This is big event for Mozilla like company, but inviting
to community people, this is Great actually.
(Various Other community like openoffice etc
organize these type, but not sure about
sponsorship for community guys)

I am working for Punjabi Language from Punjabi Team,
so I got invite from Mozilla on First Week on May. I was
excited, but more wondered how this is possible?
Are they really invited me??
Finally I confirmed that it is true? but who is going
to pay for travel, really they pay or they select and we
have pay (which is impossible for me)???
was again big question for me!!
finally I got letter and they are doing each and all things!!
Woh, Great, this is cool!

After 2 year, I am going for community event, where
I have to spent nothing.

Surely I would like to thank Mozilla for invite me from Punjabi
team, but more I appreciate Mozilla for asking feedback and
get input for future plans. Many big Open Source players
has no such practice, but this is one of big thing Mozilla
took lead!!
Mozilla's way to L10N, I liked very much (although somehow
different and difficult than other projects) as you can get
Build within few minutes after commit your changes.
Release process is such nice (and hard of Translator:-) ) that
a little chance to skip any error. Punjabi Firefox
2.x released hold for very small error and last minute,
Release had been dropped for Punjabi. This is like most and
Hoping to get more chance to get to talk with Mozilla
Developers and experts regarding this.

Surely like to see more improvement L10N process, while
supporting currently (DTD and PROPERTIES) way instead
of PO file based.

While visit Canada, I have plan to visit Toronto
and find some Punjabi Guys, who want to
know about Punjabi Team and want to contribute
in it (either any way). First task is to find those people,
then what to present them and most important
will be "Feedback" from them ( I know very few
people aware about Punjabi Project, but most of
them out of those only know "Firefox" as it
available to Windows, Mac and Linux, So this
Mozilla Summit also help Punjabi community
to spread Punjabi Firefox in Canada!)

So it is Mozilla Summit, which provided community
people to Directly interact with Mozilla Developers.
I would like to thanks again for Mozilla to invite me
and wish more Open Source money making Companys to
follow the same to gather Community+Company in
a year or 2 to share ideas, plans.

Finally This event is far way and I have to Pass "Visa Test"
for Canada to attend this. so my favourite
quote "Who knows tomorrow??" :-)