N900 with Punjabi support....

I got N900 for Testing Punjabi on it.
While need to install fonts, I was not
clear about rendering after installing
fonts. it is based on Maemo Linux, so
you can install/use application easily

After install openssl-client/server,
scp lohit-punjabi fonts from fedora
machine to N900 and 'fc-cache',
run 'fennec'.


While after reboot, I can see the
Punjabi in mail and other places
(no interface translation available yet).
Most Important thing was Rendering,
which is just working and good enough
to use. fonts was installed on N810, but
there is Punjabi Rendering was broken


More Screenshot you can check here

from i18n Point of view, following task with status:
---
-Fonts- Working - Need to package
-Rendering - Working - Nothing to Done
-Input - Need to Work - Need to Package
---

Now Android:
No Indian Language is supported as such, but

got a chance to check Samsung Galaxy Spica

It has Hindi Interface, but Rendering broken.
Same as Apple iPhone.

Now it seems Nokia should work fast, but less
hard to provide Indian language as Rendering is
working and just installing fonts can
help to enable support.

install compare-locales (from Mozilla l10n tools)

To install compare-locales on Fedora Machine,
'easy_install' need to install, which is NOT
part of python-setuptools, for which I tried
many times to find and install, but it IS
part of python-setuptools-devel (mostly
devel packages don't have command useful
for user).

$yum install python-setuptools-devel

$easy_install compare-locales

so, now you can use this on Fedora to
compare your locale with english strings
How to use, please check Mozilla Website and Blogs

Fedora 10 and Indic...

Finally Fedora 10!

http://fedoraproject.org/en/

You can see various other Indic languages in list on main page.

Main Look is, Punjabi Web Interface back again after a long time.
Link for Punjabi Interface is here
http://fedoraproject.org/pa/

according to Release notes, Major Update (not all)
KDE 4.1 (KDE4 's first Stable release)
Gnome 2.24
Special for Indic Language
On Screen Keyboard for Indic Language


iBus - New Alternative for SCIM

Help for Other Multimedia Help

If you want to listen WMA or other patented formats, use WIFI or other package, which is not part of
Fedora, please don't forget to use RPM Fusion!


USB Boot information and other support,
USB Boot...

If you are an Indic user of Fedora, then surely you will find a bug in Firefox, which is
not yet fixed and Avaiable to track:
Fedora Bug:
Mozilla

Mozilla upstream is going to fix after 3.0.0.5 (in 3.0.0.6), yet is far away from release.
Still only one workaround provided by Fedora Engineer
Download here and Install (only xulrunner package is enough)

Will update more for Indic languages in Fedora 10 later...

till then Enjoy for Indic in Fedora 10!

Firefox Rendering for Indic Language

Firefox 3.0.x's rendering is very bad and it is
almost impossible to work in localize environment with
firefox.

When Firefox downloaded and used in Punjabi language (pa_IN)
locale (environment), English web pages are showing characters
in Punjabi (Non-English) font. (Juck characters as in screenshot)

Blog Screenshot

And yes, it is problem on Linux, but not confirmed on Windows.

it is almost impossible to read the Text on most website. Wonder
is that Punjabi Websites works fine.

Firefox Rendering Problem

First bug was filed for Fedora Bugz #460865, which is later
upstreamed to Mozilla

Mozilla Bz #455647 is handle very quickly and fixed
bug for trunk (firefox 3.1/1.9.1), but Firefox 3.0.3/4/5/6/x
is still without patch. If patch is not
available, then Fedora 10, Opensuse 11.0/11.1 will suffer
and native user will actually suffer from it.

Can someone from Mozilla or Indic community will ask
Mozilla l10n to make commet in Bug (or make blocker
for 1.9.0.5/6)?
It is really difficult for regular Indic user to work
with firefox (3.0.x) without patch?

Firefox 3.1 Beta 1 - for Punjabi

Again Firefox available for Testing beta version. It is available
for Punjabi Version 3.1Beta1

Windows Download:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.1b1&os=win&lang=pa-IN

Mac Download:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.1b1&os=osx&lang=pa-IN

Linux Download:
http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.1b1&os=linux&lang=pa-IN

If you have resource please download and Test once (for Punjabi), so
that we can make impact for locale [1]

More This Beta release Information:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

After Test, please send us your review, comment about
Translation to our mailing list Punjab-users so that
we can work to update as we have two week to finish before
Beta 2 release. I have one issue with me (which is sent by
Mr. A S Kang for copy/link issue)

[1] Mozilla Bug
ਬੱਗ ਮੁਤਾਬਕ ਔਸਤ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਲਈ ਹਿੱਟ 100 ਰੋਜ਼ਾਨਾ ਹੈ, ਮੈਨੂੰ ਥੋੜ੍ਹੀ ਹੈਰਾਨੀ ਹੋਈ ਕਿ 100 ਕਿੱਥੋ ਹੋ ਗਏ, ਸੱਚੀ
ਐਨੀ ਉਮੀਦ ਨਹੀਂ ਸੀ। ਬਾਕੀ ਮੋਜ਼ੀਲਾ ਸਿਸਟਮ ਐਡਮਿਨ ਦੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਖੁਦ ਪੜ੍ਹ ਲਵੋ ਜੀ! Check
Admin comment below about Punjabi

"For the most part it looks like we have about 100 Active Daily users for pa-IN.
There is a strange couple of days just recently where we had a huge spike.
aug 21,22... Can anyone think of what might have caused this? Holiday or any
other event? I could have just been an error in our reporting system...

Here is the data for those two days and the last 15.

2008-08-21 7,004
2008-08-22 533
...
2008-10-01 110
2008-10-02 94
2008-10-03 115
2008-10-04 99
2008-10-05 93
2008-10-06 107
2008-10-07 106
2008-10-08 114
2008-10-09 96
2008-10-10 119
2008-10-11 99
2008-10-12 102
2008-10-13 117
2008-10-14 113
2008-10-15 119"

how to check changset with HG (mozilla)

I was working to fix translation status for mozilla firefox release.
After commit some files, I need to find what is changeset, which
I forgot to get with following command before 'hg push':

$ hg outgoing

this command give you output as changeset.

After small search I found new command as below:

$ hg log

This command give you complete log, from start date and first
few line will be latest log as below:
------
singh-brars-macbook:pa-IN Preet$ hg log
changeset: 9:c712d30e06bb
tag: tip
user: A S Alam
date: Tue Sep 30 20:20:34 2008 +0530
summary: Update for Beta Release with add/remove lines, files for Punjabi (pa): A S Alam

changeset: 8:ad8705b0d648
user: A S Alam
date: Tue Sep 30 20:18:16 2008 +0530
summary: Update for Beta Release with add/remove lines, files for Punjabi (pa): A S Alam
------

this was useful to get latest changes commit to directory

my first 'hg' commit to mozilla

I was trying mozilla l10n commit with new version control system, Mercurial.
Finally today I cheched out en-US and pa-IN (for checkout, please check Docs),
started with few translation for one file and used step as mention in Mozilla Docs
following is output of my terminal
------
amanpreet:pa-IN Preet$ hg commit -m "updating translation first time with hg for Punjabi (pa) by Amanpreet Singh Alam"
amanpreet:pa-IN Preet$ hg outgoing
comparing with ssh://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/pa-IN/
searching for changes
changeset: 2:0c8a3c71fe9d
tag: tip
user: A S Alam
date: Tue Aug 12 11:47:59 2008 +0530
summary: updating translation first time with hg for Punjabi (pa) by Amanpreet Singh Alam

amanpreet:pa-IN Preet$ hg push
pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/pa-IN/
searching for changes
remote: adding changesets
remote: adding manifests
remote: adding file changes
remote: added 1 changesets with 1 changes to 1 files
amanpreet:pa-IN Preet$ hg push
pushing to ssh://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/pa-IN/
searching for changes
no changes found
---------

first 'hg push' is so slient that I can't understand that anything commited or not, so I run once again
and tried to fresh checkout and Yes, changes are there. So Please don't except any version for new files
as in CVS.

So, finally log can be check Mozilla-l10n-central

First Punjabi hg commit "Push" can be found at
First Punjabi Commit Log.

Official World Record Set: Firefox - 24 Hours - 80,02,530

it is news at BBC

80,02,530 download in 24 hours, it is official World record now.
Download happed around the world in 25 countries.

Although BBC mentioned about 9,000 download per Minute,
still there were server issue for download. Within 5 hours,
Fiefox 2.0's download count left behind.

Mozilla is expected to increase % in Web-browser Market Share,
which is actually great news.

Congratulation for Whole Mozilla and his contributors around the
world for making such product, which people love TOO much.

Punjabi Firefox: Newspaper Caption and Indic communities

Punjabi Firefox Release news is
available in newspaper DNA

it couldn't be great thing if happened in
Punjab (or Punjabi) newspaper, but it
was newspaper in Maharashtra (PUNE)
Color page news and with Great Heading.
People had question about Hindi (surely it is
should be). Reply was simple "it is community
driven translation, not by Mozilla."

Real means is it. I never saw Mozilla to
push any community to do translation,
it is ok with various communities, where
languages are with good priority like
European countries, but when talk about Indian
Languages, where English has 'Great'
priority over local language for 'high
class'/'first class' society, someone
don't forgot that more than those 'First
class' people, native speakers for their
respective languages. If those people are
not active in communities or open source,
it should not understand that those
languages are not required or can
skip those.
This time happen with Hindi, which
is not released with Firefox 3. Rajesh
did very hard work to finish it, actually
he completed, but Release process for
Firefox is tough and it is not 'simple'
to follow. You should follow 'daily' routine
to ask question from responsible persons
(in Mozilla l10n, I found Axel (Pike) only
guy for this).
Process need to make simple, (
people are working on it), but it is not
too complex in either sense (to understand
or follow). You can keep track if keep yourself
regular.
I found thread on mailing list as following
Hindi why not?.

While agree with Sangeeta about comment,
Axel point is valid too, actually Axel is most
busy person during l10n release. Process as
I told earlier is not bad, but it can be improved
as it is unique process I found during my 6 year
L10N/i18n experience. It is best for get 'build
for your language' in every 15 mintnes. it is
fast to test, and very dedicated Test Case and
Test Process. although Translation is not simple
as it is not 'po' files for most translators, but
I thought it is 'USE TO' factor than 'Easiness'.

Mozilla explain that " reaching out to recruit people to work on
localisations for Indian users", hope to improve situation soon.

Firefox 3 - The Download Day!

it was 18 June in India, and I opened site for firefox, but it was not!
I tried many times, but web-site was down. I thought It was due to
heavy download. within 2 hours, I failed to open a single time:-(

my friend told me that BSNL blocked the site due to heavy traffic.
oh shit, it was too bad. only after lunch time I was able to download it.
till that time I was watching graph from Firefox download world-wide.

It was wonderful to see graph, but India is far behind than even
smaller countries like France, Germany. With passing day, it was
near to 0.1 million, but where China is over it, but Australia, Russia
is over if you compare population with India. Even Brazil has
statics comparable with US/Canada.

Top 10 downloader are:US, Germany, Japan, Spain, UK, France, Iran, Italy, Canada, Poland

Overall, it shows awareness about Open Source and even about uses of
Software (computer) in Region, India, China, has half the world population,
has Low IT density as compared to rest of world. Same with Africa. So
when those region increases Open Source/Free Software uses (like Brazil has),
then it will be different picture on map while we download next Firefox:-)

Mozilla Blog: Closed for Comments also??

I found Mozilla L10N blog from Pike (Axel), he posed about
Various Tools and Testing related stuff.
(you can found it Here).

I had question "How are you going to test Mozilla l10n Package" by litmus or otherway?
but there was no way to make comment or I failed to found!
when I tried to login, it was showing word press, but not to register.

It was understandable the Post only from Mozilla Staff, but why
Comments are blocked?

Still searching, if you know, please help me about this!
still that "Mozilla tried to Closed Comment with opensource Project":-)

Mozilla Summit 2008 - Honor for Punjabi Team

Mozilla is going organize Mozilla Summit
from 28July 2008 to 1 Aug 2008 (1 Week Event) in Canada, Whistler, British Columbia.

This is first event of its type by Mozilla
This is big event for Mozilla like company, but inviting
to community people, this is Great actually.
(Various Other community like openoffice etc
organize these type, but not sure about
sponsorship for community guys)

I am working for Punjabi Language from Punjabi Team,
so I got invite from Mozilla on First Week on May. I was
excited, but more wondered how this is possible?
Are they really invited me??
Finally I confirmed that it is true? but who is going
to pay for travel, really they pay or they select and we
have pay (which is impossible for me)???
was again big question for me!!
finally I got letter and they are doing each and all things!!
Woh, Great, this is cool!

After 2 year, I am going for community event, where
I have to spent nothing.

Surely I would like to thank Mozilla for invite me from Punjabi
team, but more I appreciate Mozilla for asking feedback and
get input for future plans. Many big Open Source players
has no such practice, but this is one of big thing Mozilla
took lead!!
Mozilla's way to L10N, I liked very much (although somehow
different and difficult than other projects) as you can get
Build within few minutes after commit your changes.
Release process is such nice (and hard of Translator:-) ) that
a little chance to skip any error. Punjabi Firefox
2.x released hold for very small error and last minute,
Release had been dropped for Punjabi. This is like most and
Hoping to get more chance to get to talk with Mozilla
Developers and experts regarding this.

Surely like to see more improvement L10N process, while
supporting currently (DTD and PROPERTIES) way instead
of PO file based.

While visit Canada, I have plan to visit Toronto
and find some Punjabi Guys, who want to
know about Punjabi Team and want to contribute
in it (either any way). First task is to find those people,
then what to present them and most important
will be "Feedback" from them ( I know very few
people aware about Punjabi Project, but most of
them out of those only know "Firefox" as it
available to Windows, Mac and Linux, So this
Mozilla Summit also help Punjabi community
to spread Punjabi Firefox in Canada!)

So it is Mozilla Summit, which provided community
people to Directly interact with Mozilla Developers.
I would like to thanks again for Mozilla to invite me
and wish more Open Source money making Companys to
follow the same to gather Community+Company in
a year or 2 to share ideas, plans.

Finally This event is far way and I have to Pass "Visa Test"
for Canada to attend this. so my favourite
quote "Who knows tomorrow??" :-)